Thursday, June 5, 2008
God is…..
Good morning again let me say that I enjoy your company and discussions. Now, again also let me try to reiterate by a different way of explanation. My view and opinion of this discussion are as such….we know God as the creator of all….that he was before during and will always be…correct? Now when I claim that he created all including evil this does in no way insinuate that he implements it or approves of it. You are totally correct in the fact that he did not put it on earth, but the fact still remains that we as physical human being did not create it. Unfortunately we implement and partake of it due to our own physical weaknesses. We can look at this physical earth or world as our testing grounds, the place where we attempt to place value on our spiritual beings. The bible teaches us that a man shall be known by his works. This statement shows us how to add value to ourselves in the eyes of God. Jesus put a price on us….priceless, he found us worth giving his life for! But, just like when you buy and automobile with a hefty price tag it is known that some are junk and some are good. I like to liken this scenario to a business, when a being hires employees they tend to pay an hourly price for their services, Jesus paid for us in full already when he died on the cross, now you all know and understand that the ones working the hardest and best, with the best ethics and enthusiasm are the ones that maintain their employment, the ones that receive all the perks, and after a length of service enjoy the rest of the benefits, what ever they are. Now I guess my question to you is this if God was first and his angels and he created satan which we totally relate to evil and as the tempter then he created physical form and all that it includes then we know he had a plan for us knowing our shortcomings why does everyone want to diminish his power his creation his plan……I guess I am just rambling on and I can only say this …. I think and to me this verse in the bible says it all very clearly:
Ecc 3:10 I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
Ecc 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
Ecc 3:12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
Ecc 3:13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.
Ecc 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
Ecc 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
Ecc 3:16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.
Ecc 3:17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Love and peace to all and May God Bless
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Dear Sir,
Let me again re-itterate one last time (and I do mean last time). You can not prove via the Scriptures that God created evil because evil is ACTION not ITEM. Can you not understand the difference? Let me explain.
When you say that God created evil, you say that it is God's fault that you sin because if He hadn't of created it in the first place, you wouldn't have fallen subject to it (Adam tried something similar in Genesis 3:12 when he blamed the woman that God gave him but it didn't work then either). This blasphemeous doctrine, ultimately says, as Anonymous pointed out, that Christ deserved to die because He created evil. Which view then leads to degrading the death of Christ to the point of non-essential. This blasphemeous viewpoint's purpose ultimately is an attempt by the one spouting it, to justify his/her sin and to say that God owes us a free ticket to heaven because He created sin. Is God in our debt? Is it God's fault that we sin? Again James says that God cannot be tempted by evil nor tempts anyone with evil. (1.13). Then James says that God has no variableness (fickleness) and no shadow of turning. (1:17). There is no evil in God. PERIOD!
God did not create us evil. According to Genesis 1:31 all that God created was . . . PLEASING to Him. Is evil pleasing to God? Not according to Romans 8:1-8. If, therefore, God created everything pleasing to Himself then His creation track record is consistant of creating nothing but good.
Now, sir and Fred. Maybe you did not understand that point. And I pray that be the case. Understand this point as well, Galatians 1:6-9 pronounces a curse upon those who bring a doctrine other than that preached by the apostles (which is contained in the Scriptures). The doctrine which you put forth, is no where contained in Scripture. Therefore to continue putting forth this doctrine will lead you straight down the path to Hell (and yes there is such a place reserved for those who know not God and obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ (II Thessalonians 1:7-9) as well as those who blaspheme (vilify, speak impiously, defame, revile, speak evil of) the Holy Spirit (Mark 3:22-30) and God).
From your writings, sir, comes a picture of a man, a sad, pitiful man who has lost his focus upon the pure Word of God and fallen pray to winds of doctrine (Ephesians 4:14) and to his own lusts (II Timothy 4:3; James 1:17).
It is my hope and prayer that you might indeed find your way back to the truth, realizing that YOU and YOU ALONE are the reason that you do evil (sin), not God. Do I sound like I am judging you? I am not; rather I am judging your fruit as evidenced by your words, as Jesus stated: "By their fruit you shall know them." (Matthew 7:15-16). You have failed, despite repeated requests to do so, to provide a Scriptural basis for what you profess. Instead, portraying or implying that we should accept your word as true. Jesus says that God's word is truth (John17:17) and both Paul and Peter say that it contains all that a Christian needs to live (II Timothy 2:15; II Timothy 3:16-17; II Peter 1:3). this means that the Scriptures are the standard by which we are to judge a person's fruit and your fruit, sir, is rotten.
I am shaking the dust of this blasphemeous blog off my feet and will neither read nor post here anymore. I will not say "God bless you" for if I did I would be partaking of your sin (II John 10-11) and that I want no part of.
God is (Hebrews 11:6). God created (Genesis 1). God created all good (Genesis 1:31).
Man was created good (Genesis 1:26-31). Man did evil (Genesis 3). Man needs saving (Romans 3:23).
God knew (Matthew 6:32; I John 3:20). God planned (Ephesians 3:10-11; II Timothy 1:8-9). God saves (II Timothy 1:9; James 4:12).
Enough said.
Christian
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