FRIENDS IT IS PROBABLY the fact that you are reading that he created evil therefore he is and does…. Nothing could be farther from the truth….it could be better said that he created the options of Good and evil….God is not the creator of evil things nor actions, just our free will….which means you and I have the option to select which you want to do. God created the mind and feelings…we are the devisors of our own good and or evil actions.
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Well now, Josiah left, now Christian has decided to leave but I shall stay at least for a little while. Tell me are you a politician? Perhaps you are related to Mitt Romney or Jon Edwards? I still haven't figured out what you want me to do with your apology. By the way, when Ananias helped me out of the pothole, I checked the bottom rung on that ladder, it said "do not think more highly of yourself than you ought". Thought you might like to know that.
Well now, Josiah left, now Christian has decided to leave but I shall stay at least for a little while. Tell me are you a politician? Perhaps you are related to Mitt Romney or Jon Edwards? I still haven't figured out what you want me to do with your apology. By the way, when Ananias helped me out of the pothole, I checked the bottom rung on that ladder, it said "let him who thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall". Thought you might like to know that.
Hey Saul glad to see your back, hope I didn't offend you when i said that you were babling, i'm still trying to figure out what you mean.
Fred, Say, you asked about authors/books. If I am the author of Book Alpha then yes, I am the author of every Book Alpha. question 2) The question isn't WHEN evil came into existence, it's WHO created it whenever it was created. We are only told that Satan is its author (not God). The Tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not evil; the choice to disobey God was the evil. 4) Whether the folks that hold to the teaching that God created evil know or not what they are meaning doesn't matter. The problem is where their teaching eventually leads, which is that if God created it, He was under obligation to remove it. Then as stated before, Jesus deserved it. That is a terrible injustice to our Lord and savior. Contagious 1, question to a statement you made, 'At birth God relinquishes control over our thoughts'? Pardon me? What thoughts do babes as they are being formed in the womb have? And to your question about words such as 'love, peace, servitude, etc. etc.' those words are called 'abstract nouns'. Lastly, the ability to choose is not evil--the choice to disobey God is evil.
anonymous, you seem to miss the fact that God does not make us sin (as I have stated before)He just gives us the choice. How can you say we have a choice to do good or evil if the only option we have is to do good?Where does the free will come from?
Also I never said the tree was evil, I just pionted out that evil was inexistance before the world.
Was also going to point out that if you write a book and call the bible does that mean that you are the author of all the bibles?
O Fred, how long will you persist in this affirmation that evil existed before creation without offering any substantial proof? How do you know evil pre-existed? Where is your proof?
Fred, Rom 3:23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; God doesn't make us but we do. Don't thing I ever said God makes us sin, it is our choice. It is our choice to obey God or choose to disobey God, and to disobey God is to choose to do evil (it is an 'evil' choice? Disobedience is always wrong, and will always be punished. If you write a book and call it the bible, I'm afraid, Fred you would be giving yourself credit where credit is not due? But say, the author of the Bible is the author of all Bibles. I don't see a point here on this one. God doesn't print the Bible any more than an 'author' prints all of his/her own book. Please enlighten me, maybe?
Fred, sorry for all the spelling errors, that is why I should read more closely before I post! Hope you can read it any way.
anonomous, To answer your last question first the publishers are not athours, the authors are not the inventors (normaly).( Have you ever read a catholic bible and a king james Bible? who is the author? for example?
Habakkuk On the third day God made trees and such I would say (not the Bible ) that is when God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Not that the tree was evil just pointing out that it was created and on the earth.
Now I will end my part of the discussion on who created evil for several reasons
1 I believe this disscusion to be vain reasoning
2 I will not give satan more power than he has, because by saying that he created evil is saying that he has the same power as God does.
2 I will not diminish Gods power because of the same reason.
Just so that all know what I believe I will state it again. God gave us rules and He tells us when we follow the rules we are doing good, when we don't follow them we are doing evil.obviously He defines good and evil, since he defines them and He is all powerful He created them both. Also if He didn't create evil how could He give us free will. Does God make us sin? No.
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