Monday, June 9, 2008
A Thief and a Dog
Good morning friends, it is a little chilly so I am sure that a cup of coffee is on order and shall be really enjoyed this morning. It is my hope to clear up my reasoning in a way that you will understand. It is also my hope that you will take back your accusations to the blasphemous nature in which you have perceived my writings. In my life I see God as the highest and most sacred of all authorities, as having the greatest plan and intention for you and me on this physical plane we call earth. Gods love and grace being far superior to anything that we can physically imagine or possibly understand. Even though great strides are taken by many on a daily basis to do so it is impossible to fathom its great depths with our limited mentality.
I heard on the radio once about a man who locked up his house and went to bed. In the night he awoke to noise being made on the lower level of his home. Being the protector of his family, he arose and went to investigate. As he was passing down the hall way approaching the stairs his son had happened to leave the baseball bat on the floor outside his room so the man picked it up and continued his procession down the stairs. Being as quiet as he possibly could he walked right into the living room where he saw a thief in the process of stealing his articles. Startled the thief jumped and made an attempt to escape. In doing so he fell and broke his leg. The owner of the home then called the authorities and upon arrival they arrested the thief. Now I am sure that you are saying well ok that is great, but friends that is not the end of the story. The rest of the story is that the thief went to jail but filled a law suite against the home owner for breaking his leg on their property and he won and went scott free with an even larger bag of loot ill gotten. Now what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? I am sure that many of you know that the whole scenario presented above is just not right, but in our country the law also states that if you have a dog that is very protective of his owners and you put a beware of dog sign on the fence or gate and some ones decides to go into your yard anyway and gets bit you are the responsible party. It is my opinion that the mentality used to argue the points being written here in the previous posts is the same.
We as Americans live in a land that prides itself on freedoms, extensive freedoms of all kinds and shapes with in which we as Americans take advantage of on a daily basis for a more fulfilling life in this country. The gov’t was set up to govern the people setting forth a set of guidelines or laws that we are required to live by. This is so that we all can live in a peaceful and harmonious state of existence. Now not all of the laws are the greatest but most are implemented for the protection of the citizens of this country.
God, by divine inspiration, also set forth a set of guidelines or laws into existence for us through the writings and teachers of the bible. Just as if you break the laws of the country there are consequences, so are there consequences if you break Gods law. Now do the laws of the country make the country wicked or evil? No! Just because the laws stated by God create the distinction of good and evil, this does not make him evil. This also does not entail him using evil or at fault because we do it. This is where my stories come into play. If I have it posted that my canine friend is aggressive and it is in your best interest to stay on the other side of the fence from him and you decide not to then, am I at fault? Just because I knew he was aggressive towards unwanted intruders? Unfortunately that is the legal stand point that the folks of this country have taken, when in reality the person who chose to forbid the warning is the one at fault. Therefore is the reason for what I have said. God by creating a law, setting forth a distinction between good and evil, created them both, does this make him evil? Definitely not! There is no form possible that you can create one with out the other, if you define what is good then you also have defined what is evil. Jesus didn’t deserve to die because God created good and evil, he died because he was perfect and made the perfect sacrifice, his life for our inadequacies, or imperfections which by going into the yard with satan we have chosen to commit. If one chooses to break in to another’s house and breaks a leg or gets bit by the aggressive dog does the owner owe the perpetrator restitution? Neither God nor Jesus owes us a thing! But because they love us so much God provided us the perfect sacrifice and Jesus gave his life.
Love and peace to all!! May God Bless
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For my last comment on this blog I will set aside my humor as it seems to be lost on the author and some readers. My heart is saddened by the authors unwillingness to think through what he is saying. There were some extremely good posts which included no scripture references. The casual and unlearned manner in which the scriptures have been used by the author is intolerable. I must say that occasionally there were proper usages and applications made. By and large the scriptures were not properly handled.
I will conclude my comment by siting some scriptures which apply to the author of this blog. Make of them what you will. It is your choice.
Pro 23:9 Speak not in the hearing of a fool; For he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
Pro 15:2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
I shall now join Josiah and Christian. Good-bye
Contagiuos1 not sure what those three missed, and i'm not sure why they choose to diminish Gods power or his plan.they ask for bible verses yet the only one I have heard is that satan is the author.they can't even show where it say satan created evil or any thing else.the problem with saul pointing his finger at you is that he has four pionting back at him. So keep up the good work.
Fred, Maybe we all missed several things, yourself included. There were a number of scriptures used, and used effectively. There is nowhere that it says that God created evil, the Bible does say that Satan is the 'author', however. Contagious one, I thought you did an effective job of making your point. I do agree that God does set the standards. That does make the fact that there is a right way and a wrong way. I don't think you (or any one else) can conclude that makes God the one who created sin. If everyone chose to do right all of the time, then there would be no evil. It cannot be God's fault, nor His creation. I don't know if I said that right, hope so. Oh, Fred, part of our problem with the 'author' (of the Bible) is that God IS the author of the Bible, see Hebrews 1:1 "God, having of old time spoken unto the fathers in the prophets by divers portions and in divers manners, Heb 1:2 hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son..." The King James Version, the Catholic Version, etc. are TRANSLATIONS of the original text, either from the Hebrew, or Greek languages in which they were originally written. So easy to uncommunicate.
anonamous please explaine col.1:16-17. please think about it, i was not blaming, or looking to place blame on God.
1 co.14:33, have you ever read a catholic bible if you have you will know what i'm saying.
1Corinthians 14:33 "for God is not a God of confusion, but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints," Is that the reading from the Catholic Bible? As I understand it the Catholic Bible is the same ? as the King James, it just has human (as the Pope's or some human person's) comments and foot notes. Is that correct? The text itself reads the same? I should have a Catholic Bible somewhere--scratching head--anyway. There are many of these that have the man made creeds and human additions inserted into the Bible. The two most reliable translations of the Bible are the American Standard version of 1901 and the King James version. Then there are now what they call 'paraphrases', which are not translations at all but some dude telling you what he thinks it ought to say. Not good.
Colossians 1:16 "for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him;"
Well, you see this is speaking of Jesus and the creation in Genesis 1:1-3 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2)And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
3)And God said...,
I stopped there because that shows God the Father vs. 1, God the Spirit vs. 2, and God the Son vs. 3 (Jesus is the Word)
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.
Jesus was God and with God before the beginning, but 'in the beginning' is when 'they' began creating. Everything God created was good. God gave Adam and Eve everything they needed to be happy. If you look at all that they had it was astounding. There was only one thing they could not have/do. I don't know why some people, and satan enjoy throwing stumbling blocks in front of others. I have seen them do it however. Someone has said it is because they don't want to do right and they enjoy causing others to do wrong. But it is a choice each person makes. Just as setting the standard doesn't make a person do wrong, and as you have said, you wouldn't blame God for your sins/wrong doings, evil is something that we as individuals do, (action, you see).
anonymous, most of the catholic is the same but there are places were it has been rewritten to fit there needs, and not as footnotes, but as biblical.agree on the two versions i use the kjv.if you look up the word heaven (as used in the kjv) it refers to sky or the abode of God, I tend to think that God created angels and such, so I have to disagree that it was talking only about the earth. also you forgot verse 17. Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Fred, Sorry I took so long, really busy.) You are right, I noticed I forgot verse 17. The thing is that there is only one eternal being, and that is God (and Jesus is part of that eternal being as has been already mentioned. God did create the angels,Hebrews 2:6 'But one hath somewhere testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? Or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Heb 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels;'. God also created satan, but he didn't create satan as evil. Some folks try to slip the blame onto God because God created Satan. Since Satan does evil,the thought goes, therefore God created evil. We can see the flaw there if we stop and think it through. God created man, man does evil, but God didn't create man evil--in the beginning. He created man good, perfect, pleasing to Himself--man corrupted himself. Likewise, God created Satan as good, perfect, and pleasing (to God), but Satan corrupted himself. 2Peter 2:4 'For if God spared not angels when they sinned, but cast them down to hell, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;'. You see, they corrupted themselves.
anonymous, anyone who tries to blame God for their sin, is a coward and a liar. Do they blame God for the good they do? I agree that God created satan perfect and that satan sinned, but ( i believe that God gives angels the same freewill that he gives us )satan could only do what God allowed, in other words good or evil.If satan hadn't of sinned, I believe that God still would have put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of eden. Hope this helps
Fred, John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:9 There was the true light, even the light which lighteth every man, coming into the world. BLAME God for the good we do? I CREDIT God with the good I do. Without him I would and could do nothing good, for goodness comes from and is part of the nature of God.
God sets bounds, but we as well as Satan do have our free will, free will is not evil. The tree in the garden was not evil, we have agreed on that. Evil is when we chose not to obey. With free will that is always an option. God doesn't will us to not obey.
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